Comments on: Spamming del.icio.us http://codepuccino.com/metacosm/2005/05/04/spamming-delicious/ This is not a tag line! Sat, 05 Sep 2009 20:54:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: ubik http://codepuccino.com/metacosm/2005/05/04/spamming-delicious/comment-page-1/#comment-151 ubik Mon, 09 May 2005 15:44:53 +0000 http://blogs.codepuccino.com/metacosm/archives/2005/05/04/spamming-delicious/#comment-151 Actually, there it is: http://del.icio.us/dubord. As you can see, pretty spam-like, wouldn't you say? Actually, there it is: http://del.icio.us/dubord. As you can see, pretty spam-like, wouldn’t you say?

]]> By: site admin http://codepuccino.com/metacosm/2005/05/04/spamming-delicious/comment-page-1/#comment-150 site admin Mon, 09 May 2005 02:01:21 +0000 http://blogs.codepuccino.com/metacosm/archives/2005/05/04/spamming-delicious/#comment-150 I think you misunderstood my point. I'm not trying to dictate how people use their tags. I didn't think I implied that the "cocoa" tag should *only* be used for bookmarks related to the OS X API. In fact my point was that using a content analysis mechanism based on the most popular bookmarks using a given tag to prevent tag spam would not work for the very reason that tags have different meaning for different people. I use the "cocoa" tag for Apple's Cocoa-related bookmarks, you use it to tag pages you think your friend nicknamed cocoa would find interesting, while others would use it to tag pages pertaining to chocolate... The tag spammer I'm refering to was using a large number of popular tags to mark the page (s)he wanted to promote, none of the tags were actually relevant to the actual content of the page. I don't care about getting the occasional post in my RSS feed that is not related to Apple's Cocoa: as you say, it is part of the game. However, my RSS aggregator shows for each entry the complete list of tags that were used for that particular entry. The bookmark that ticked me off was using around 50 different tags which were all popular tags when it was obvious (by visiting the linked page, which was the spammer's intention) that the page didn't have anything to do with any of the tags the spammer used. Interestingly, the bookmark in question seems to have been deleted from the del.icio.us database since I haven't been able to find it again to write this reply... I think you misunderstood my point. I’m not trying to dictate how people use their tags. I didn’t think I implied that the “cocoa” tag should *only* be used for bookmarks related to the OS X API. In fact my point was that using a content analysis mechanism based on the most popular bookmarks using a given tag to prevent tag spam would not work for the very reason that tags have different meaning for different people. I use the “cocoa” tag for Apple’s Cocoa-related bookmarks, you use it to tag pages you think your friend nicknamed cocoa would find interesting, while others would use it to tag pages pertaining to chocolate…

The tag spammer I’m refering to was using a large number of popular tags to mark the page (s)he wanted to promote, none of the tags were actually relevant to the actual content of the page. I don’t care about getting the occasional post in my RSS feed that is not related to Apple’s Cocoa: as you say, it is part of the game. However, my RSS aggregator shows for each entry the complete list of tags that were used for that particular entry. The bookmark that ticked me off was using around 50 different tags which were all popular tags when it was obvious (by visiting the linked page, which was the spammer’s intention) that the page didn’t have anything to do with any of the tags the spammer used.

Interestingly, the bookmark in question seems to have been deleted from the del.icio.us database since I haven’t been able to find it again to write this reply…

]]> By: quirkyalone http://codepuccino.com/metacosm/2005/05/04/spamming-delicious/comment-page-1/#comment-149 quirkyalone Sat, 07 May 2005 16:47:15 +0000 http://blogs.codepuccino.com/metacosm/archives/2005/05/04/spamming-delicious/#comment-149 I would say that you need to broad your perspective a little bit. del.icio.us is a personal bookmark manager in the first place, and everyone can tag any URL with whatever tags he wants. If I post some URL with tag Cocoa, and the target site is not related to OS-X, or do not fall into your definition of "cocoa", that means I am spamming you? That's ridiculous, I'd say. Maybe my friend has a nick cocoa, and I will tag URL's which I think he would consider interesting with this tag. I don't care, if you or someone else subscribed to this tag rss. You seems to want to control a meaning of certain tag, but del.icio.us just do not work this way. I would say that you need to broad your perspective a little bit. del.icio.us is a personal bookmark manager in the first place, and everyone can tag any URL with whatever tags he wants.

If I post some URL with tag Cocoa, and the target site is not related to OS-X, or do not fall into your definition of “cocoa”, that means I am spamming you? That’s ridiculous, I’d say. Maybe my friend has a nick cocoa, and I will tag URL’s which I think he would consider interesting with this tag. I don’t care, if you or someone else subscribed to this tag rss. You seems to want to control a meaning of certain tag, but del.icio.us just do not work this way.

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